Thursday 13 May 2010

Jesus lived for 120 years.? A Qadiani argument

Very often Qadianis would present a tradition from an ISLAMIC source in their vain attempt to prove that Jesus (PBUH) God Forbid ! died a natural death. They will say that the tradition says Jesus lived for 120 years, actually he came to kashmir and died there.
the tradition goes as;

"And I have been told that there is no Prophet after other Prophet but he lives a life half then the one who lived earlier. And I have been told that Jesus, the son of Mary lived for a hundred and twenty years and I do not see myself but approaching sixties"

{Kanzul Ummal vol. 13 pg. 676 Hadith 37732}


one would often find this on Qadiani sites.

Now let me respond to this;

Firstly this is a weak tradition. If you consult the Books of Takhrij & Jarah wa Ta'adeel (Classification of Ahadith) like "Majma'a al-Zawaid wa Manba al-Fawaid" by Imam Haithmi, we come to know that this is a WEAK TRADITION. The Tradition is originally from Mu'jam al-Tabrani from which Imam Ali Muttaqi al-Hindi, the compiler of Kanzul Ummal has taken this tradition (he hasn't mentioned the Chain of Narrators for this reason, as he has only taken it from another source).

Imam Haithmi after quoting this Tradition, writes in his above mentioned book;



رواه الطبراني بإسناد ضعيف

مجمع الزوائد-الهيثمى:ج4 ص67 -باب في مرضه ووفاته صلى الله عليه وسلم وما أطلعه الله تعالى من ذلك


Which when translated means;

"Tabarani has narrated it with WEAK ISNAD."

{Majma' al-Zawaid vol.4 pg. 67. Chapter: About the illness and death of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) and what Allah made known about this.}


SECONDLY THE NARRATION IS AGAINST ESTABLISHED FACTS:

The tradition says;"…there is no Prophet after other Prophet but he lives a life half then the one who lived earlier then him."But this is not true;

Think of the three prophets we believe: Hazrat Zakaria (Zechariah), his son Hazrat Yahya (John the Baptist) and Jesus. If Jesus lived to 120 years, then John the Baptist should have lived to 240, but he died before Jesus (and they were born less than a year apart, and John the Baptist was born earlier), executed by Herod.

Moreover, that must mean that Zechariah lived to 480 years old! By the time we reached Adam, he would have to live millions of years! If we work the other way round, the Bible records that Adam died at 930 years old (Genesis 5:5). Then geometric halving of ages clearly brings the life of Muhammad (or even Jesus) down to mere seconds.


Serious Implication !!
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THESE POINTS ARE ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT THIS TRADITION IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

FIRST AND THE FOREMOST REASON IS THAT IT IS WEAK (DA'EEF).

SECONDLY IT IS AGAINST HISTORICAL FACTS AS PROVED ABOVE.

BUT STILL IF ONE CLINGS TO IT, IT HAS SOME MORE IMPLICATIONS:As I wrote earlier that tradition is weak and against historical facts and thus not worth mentioning so it should not be presented as an evidence whatsoever. But still if somebody clings to it in his ignorance and stubbornness and if he also believes in someone like Mirza Qadiani as a Prophet or Messenger then he must put Mirza Qadiani against this tradition. If he was-God forbid !!- a prophet then he should have lived the life half of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Remember the tradition says;"…there is no Prophet after other Prophet but he lives a life half then the one who lived earlier then him."And as Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) lived for 63 years then he in that case should have lived only 31 0r 32 years. But we know he lived far more, he lived for 73 years i.e. from 1835 to 1908. Thus if one clings to this WEAK tradition and considers it worth evidence then he should believe in the whole narration and thus should not believe Mirza Qadiani as a Prophet or Messenger but should know him only as a liar and an impostor.

MAY ALLAH GUIDE US ALL TO THE TRUTH. AMEN !!


INDEED ALLAH KNOWS THE BEST !!!
Waqar Akbar Cheema


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