Mirza Nasir Ahmed And Qadiani Twist In Prophecy

Ahmedies/Qadianies Claim that caliphate and the life of 3rd Caliph of Ahmediyya Mirza Nasir Ahmed was Predicted by Mirza Ghulam Ahmed in his books.

Ahmediyya official website writes about Mirza Nasir Ahmed that,


"In Talmud, there is a passage which indicates that on the death of the Messiah his spiritual Kingdom will pass to his son and grandson. Again, in Haqiqatul Wahi, the Promised Messiah thanks God for the grant of four sons and the birth of a grandson at a future date. The much awaited prophecy was fulfilled when Hazrat Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmood Ahmad was granted a son on 16th November, 1909. He was named Nasir Ahmad. The grandson spoken of in the prophecy is none other than Hazrat Hafiz Mirza Nasir Ahmad."

http://www.alislam.org/library/nasir1.html

As we all know Mirza Ghulam Ahmed died in 1908 failing his own prophecy of 80+ years and this is understood the Mirza Ghulam Ahmed never saw the fulfillment of his prophecy i.e. the birth of Mirza Nasir Ahmed. So let us see what really Mirz said in his book "Haqeeqat Ul Wahi"

Mirza writes,

42nd sign is that God had promised me fifth son, as a grand son. This is also mentioned as a prophecy in "Mawahib ur Rehman" page 139. This prophecy says that the fifth one apart from four (sons) who was to take birth, will definitely be born at some time according to the glad tiding given to me by God. Another revelation to me about him that has been published in Al-Badar and Al-Hakam News papers long time back says, "We give you glad tidings of another boy who will be grand son i.e. the son your son. This grand son is from Us". Therefore, a boy has been born to my son three months back. He has been named Naseer Ahmed. So this prophecy has been fulfilled after four and a half years.




Oops!! According to Mirza Ghulam Ahmed the self claimed nabi of Ahmediyya jamat, the prophecy has already fulfilled in his life time in 1906 when Mirza Naseer Ahmed was born.

One must see how bold and blatant the leaders of Qadianies are with their lies and a lay Ahmedi does not even realize that how he/she has been fooled.

May Allah Guide Us All.

Physical Ascension of Jesus (PBUH) From Hadith

Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani brings yet another challenge that, you will not find in any hadith that Jesus (PBUH) went to skies bodily/Physically.


Mirza Ghulam Ahmed writes,

"There is no sahih Hadith that speaks, Jesus (PBUH) went to skies bodily"

(RK Vol 23, Chashma e Marifat Page 229)

Meeting The Challenge

أَخْبَرَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ السَّائِبِ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ ، عَنْ أَبِي صَالِحٍ ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ ، قَالَ : " كَانَ بَيْنَ مُوسَى بْنِ عِمْرَانَ وَعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ أَلْفُ سَنَةٍ وَتِسْعُمَائَةِ سَنَةٍ وَلَمْ تَكُنْ بَيْنَهُمَا فَتْرَةٌ ، وَأَنَّهُ أُرْسِلَ بَيْنَهُمَا أَلْفُ نَبِيٍّ مِنْ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ سِوَى مَنْ أُرْسِلَ مِنْ غَيْرِهِمْ ، وَكَانَ بَيْنَ مِيلادِ عِيسَى وَالنَّبِيِّ عَلَيْهِ الصَّلاةُ وَالسَّلامُ خَمْسُمِائَةِ سَنَةٍ وَتِسْعٌ وَسِتُّونَ سَنَةً بُعِثَ فِي أَوَّلِهَا ثَلاثَةُ أَنْبِيَاءَ وَهُوَ قَوْلُهُ : إِذْ أَرْسَلْنَا إِلَيْهِمُ اثْنَيْنِ فَكَذَّبُوهُمَا فَعَزَّزْنَا بِثَالِثٍ سورة يس آية 14 . وَالَّذِي عُزِّزَ بِهِ شَمْعُونُ ، وَكَانَ مِنَ الْحَوَارِيِّينَ وَكَانَتِ الْفَتْرَةُ الَّتِي لَمْ يَبْعَثِ اللَّهُ فِيهَا رَسُولا أَرْبَعُمِائَةِ سَنَةٍ وَأَرْبَعًا وَثَلاثِينَ سَنَةً ، وَإِنَّ حَوَارِيَّ عِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ كَانُوا اثْنَيْ عَشَرَ رَجُلا ، وَكَانَ قَدْ تَبِعَهُ بَشَرٌ كَثِيرٌ وَلَكِنَّهُ لَمْ يَكُنْ فِيهِمْ حَوَارِيُّ إِلا اثْنَا عَشَرَ رَجُلا ، وَكَانَ مِنَ الْحَوَارِيِّينَ الْقَصَّارُ وَالصَّيَّادُ ، وَكَانُوا عُمَّالا يَعْمَلُونَ بِأَيْدِيهِمْ ، وَإِنَّ الْحَوَارِيِّينَ هُمُ الأَصْفِيَاءُ ، وَإِنَّ عِيسَى صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حِينَ رُفِعَ كَانَ ابْنَ اثْنَتَيْنِ وَثَلاثِينَ سَنَةً وَسِتَّةِ أَشْهُرٍ ، وَكَانَتْ نُبُوَّتُهُ ثَلاثِينَ شَهْرًا ، وَإِنَّ اللَّهَ رَفَعَهُ بِجَسَدِهِ وَإِنَّهُ حَيُّ الآنَ ، وَسَيَرْجِعُ إِلَى الدُّنْيَا فَيَكُونُ فِيهَا مَلِكًا ، ثُمَّ يَمُوتُ كَمَا يَمُوتُ النَّاسُ ، وَكَانَتْ قَرْيَةُ عِيسَى تُسَمَّى نَاصِرَةَ ، وَكَانَ أَصْحَابُهُ يُسَمَّوْنَ النَّاصِرِيِّينَ ، وَكَانَ يُقَالُ لِعِيسَى : النَّاصِرِيُّ ، فَلِذَلِكَ سُمِّيَتِ النَّصَارَى النَّصَارَى " .
(الطبقات الكبرى لابن سعد)

Narrated from Ibn Abbas, he said: ".................... and verily Allah raised him [Eisa ibn Maryam] with his body while he was alive and he will soon return to this world and will be a ruler therein. Then he will die as other people die.”


(Ibn S’ad’ Tabaqat Al-Kubra 1/53)

Challenge Met!

Indeed Allah Knows The Best!

Return of Jesus (PBUH) Nazul or Ruju?

Among the self-created standards, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed comes with yet another standard in regard to the descend of Jesus (PBUH). Mirza Ghulam Ahmed says,

"if Ahadith mean that Jesus went up to the skies. If he will be back then the word "Nazool" is inapplicable. In such cases where the return of some one is meant to describe, the literate people of Arab use the word "Ruju" (Come back/Return)not Nazul (Descend)"

(Kitab ul Bariya)

As we know the level of MGA's knowledge, he said as if there is not hadith with the word "Nazul".


Now here we will meet self made standard of Mirza....


قال الـحسن: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم للـيهود: " إِنَّ عِيسَى لَـمْ يَـمُتْ، وَإِنَّهُ رَاجِعٌ إِلَـيْكُمْ قَبْلَ يَوْمِ القِـيامَةِ "


Hassan Al Basri (rah) narrated: the Prophet said to the Jews, “Jesus did not die, and he will return to you before the Day of Resurrection.”
[Ibn e Jareer (Raees ul Mufassereen according to Mirza) & Ibn Kathir under the ayah 3:55)


أَخْبَرَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ السَّائِبِ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ ، عَنْ أَبِي صَالِحٍ ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ ، قَالَ : " كَانَ بَيْنَ مُوسَى بْنِ عِمْرَانَ وَعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ أَلْفُ سَنَةٍ وَتِسْعُمَائَةِ سَنَةٍ وَلَمْ تَكُنْ بَيْنَهُمَا فَتْرَةٌ ، وَأَنَّهُ أُرْسِلَ بَيْنَهُمَا أَلْفُ نَبِيٍّ مِنْ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ سِوَى مَنْ أُرْسِلَ مِنْ غَيْرِهِمْ ، وَكَانَ بَيْنَ مِيلادِ عِيسَى وَالنَّبِيِّ عَلَيْهِ الصَّلاةُ وَالسَّلامُ خَمْسُمِائَةِ سَنَةٍ وَتِسْعٌ وَسِتُّونَ سَنَةً بُعِثَ فِي أَوَّلِهَا ثَلاثَةُ أَنْبِيَاءَ وَهُوَ قَوْلُهُ : إِذْ أَرْسَلْنَا إِلَيْهِمُ اثْنَيْنِ فَكَذَّبُوهُمَا فَعَزَّزْنَا بِثَالِثٍ سورة يس آية 14 . وَالَّذِي عُزِّزَ بِهِ شَمْعُونُ ، وَكَانَ مِنَ الْحَوَارِيِّينَ وَكَانَتِ الْفَتْرَةُ الَّتِي لَمْ يَبْعَثِ اللَّهُ فِيهَا رَسُولا أَرْبَعُمِائَةِ سَنَةٍ وَأَرْبَعًا وَثَلاثِينَ سَنَةً ، وَإِنَّ حَوَارِيَّ عِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ كَانُوا اثْنَيْ عَشَرَ رَجُلا ، وَكَانَ قَدْ تَبِعَهُ بَشَرٌ كَثِيرٌ وَلَكِنَّهُ لَمْ يَكُنْ فِيهِمْ حَوَارِيُّ إِلا اثْنَا عَشَرَ رَجُلا ، وَكَانَ مِنَ الْحَوَارِيِّينَ الْقَصَّارُ وَالصَّيَّادُ ، وَكَانُوا عُمَّالا يَعْمَلُونَ بِأَيْدِيهِمْ ، وَإِنَّ الْحَوَارِيِّينَ هُمُ الأَصْفِيَاءُ ، وَإِنَّ عِيسَى صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حِينَ رُفِعَ كَانَ ابْنَ اثْنَتَيْنِ وَثَلاثِينَ سَنَةً وَسِتَّةِ أَشْهُرٍ ، وَكَانَتْ نُبُوَّتُهُ ثَلاثِينَ شَهْرًا ، وَإِنَّ اللَّهَ رَفَعَهُ بِجَسَدِهِ وَإِنَّهُ حَيُّ الآنَ ، وَسَيَرْجِعُ إِلَى الدُّنْيَا فَيَكُونُ فِيهَا مَلِكًا ، ثُمَّ يَمُوتُ كَمَا يَمُوتُ النَّاسُ ، وَكَانَتْ قَرْيَةُ عِيسَى تُسَمَّى نَاصِرَةَ ، وَكَانَ أَصْحَابُهُ يُسَمَّوْنَ النَّاصِرِيِّينَ ، وَكَانَ يُقَالُ لِعِيسَى : النَّاصِرِيُّ ، فَلِذَلِكَ سُمِّيَتِ النَّصَارَى النَّصَارَى " .
(الطبقات الكبرى لابن سعد)

Narrated from Ibn Abbas, he said: ".................... and verily Allah raised him [Eisa ibn Maryam] with his body while he was alive and he will soon return to this world and will be a ruler therein. Then he will die as other people die.”

(Ibn S’ad’ Tabaqat Al-Kubra 1/53)

MGA himsel Used The Word

"And When Maseeh (AS) will return back (Ruju) to this world......"
(Baraheen e Ahmedyya page 593)

Challenge met!

Jesus (PBUH) Will Descend From Samaa (Skies)

Mirza Ghulam Ahmed wrote in his book "Hamamtul Bushra" that you will not find the word "Samaa" (Skies) in hadith with the word "Nazool" descend.

"Yes! There are few ahadith in which the word Nazool (Descend) exist but you will not find the word Descend from Skies in any hadith.

(Hamamatul Bushra Page 48)





"At another Place MGA says,

They combine the word "Samaa" by themselves and think that the coming one will descend from sky. Although, read all ahadith, you will not find the word "Sky" in any sahih Hadith"

(Chashma e Marifat Page 229)





Now Let us see how knowledgeable was Mirza,

Ascension To Skies:


Hadith 1

عن ابن عباس قال: لما أراد الله أن يرفع عيسى إلى السماء خرج على أصحابه ...ورفع عيسى من رَوْزَنَة في البيت إلى السماء

Ibn Abbas said, "When Allah intended to raise Jesus (PBUH) to the heavens, he went to his companions...and Jesus (PBUH) ascended to the Skies through an opening in the top of the house."
(Ibn Abi Hatim 4/431 Hadith 6266, Ibn Kathir 2/449. Ibn Kathir called it Sahih)

(Ibn Kathir (RA) was recognized as a Mujaddid of 6th century A.H. by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (MGA) of Qadian. )

Hadith 2

عن صفية أم المؤمنين رضي الله عنها أنها كانت إذا زارت بيت المقدس ، وفرغت من الصلاة في المسجد الأقصى صعدت على جبل زيتا فصلت عليه وقالت : هذا الجبل هو الذي رفع منه عيسى عليه السلام إلى السماء

It is narrated from Ummul Momineen Safiya (RA) that when she visited Bait Al-Maqdis (i.e. Jerusalem) and finished prayers in Al-Aqsa Mosque she climbed up to Mt. Olives and prayed there as well and said: ‘This is the mountain from where Jesus (PBUH) was raised up to the Skies.’

(Al-Tasrih bima Tawatar fi Nuzul Al-Masih Hadith 74 cf. Tafsir Fath Al-Aziz Surah 95)


Hadith 3

قال الحسن البصري ومحمد بن عشية الجمعة ليلة السبت، فلما حان وقت دخولهم ألقى شبهه على بعض أصحابه الحاضرين عنده ورفع عيسى من روزنة من ذلك البيت إلى السماء، وأهل البيت ينظرون، ودخل الشرط فوجدوا ذلك الشاب الذي ألقي عليه شبهه فأخذوه ظانين أنه عيسى فصلبوه ووضعوا الشوك على رأسه إهانة له، وسلم لليهود عامة النصارى الذين لم يشاهدوا ما كان من أمر عيسى أنه صلب وضلوا بسبب ذلك ضلالاً مبيناً كثيراً فاحشاً بعيداً.

(البداية والنهاية)

Hasan Basri and Ibn Ishaq said: The king, who ordered the killing of Jesus, was David bin Naura. He commanded Jesus to be killed and crucified. They surrounded Jesus who was in a house inside Bait-ul Maqdis. It was a Saturday night. When they were about to enter the house, his likeness was put on one of those who were present there with him. And Jesus was lifted up from the window (in the roof) of that house to the Skies. When the police entered the house they found the youth on whom the likeness of Jesus was put, so they took him and crucified him. They even put a crown of thorns on his head to mock him. Those Christians who were not present there at that time, believed what Jews claimed, that they killed Jesus.

Hadith 4

وعن ابن عباس رضي الله عنه. كنا في المسجد نتذاكر فضل الأنبياء، فذكرنا نوحاً بطول عبادته، وإبراهيم بخلته، وموسى بتكليم الله إياه، وعيسى برفعه إلى السماء،

Hazrat Ibn Abbas (ra) said, we were discussing about the blessings/superiority of Prophets in mosque, Hazrat Noah (AS) was given a long time to worship (due to long age), Prophet Abraham (aS) was Khalilullah, Prophet Moses (PBUH) was Kaleemullah and Prophet Jesus (PBUH) was take to skies...

(Allama Zamakhshri under ayah 2:253)

Hadith 5

عن حاطب بن أبي بلتعة قال: بعثني رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إلى المقوقس ملك الاسكندرية، قال: فجئته بكتاب رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فانزلني في منزله وأقمت عنده، ثم بعث إلي وقد جمع بطارقته وقال: إني سائلك عن كلام فأحب أن تفهم عني، قال: قلت: هلم، قال: أخبرني عن صاحبك أليس هو نبي ؟ قلت: بل هو رسول الله، قال: فما له حيث كان هكذا لم يدع على قومه حيث أخرجوه من بلده إلى غيرها ؟ قال: فقلت: عيسى ابن مريم أليس تشهد أنه رسول الله ؟ قال: بلى قلت: فما له حيث أخذه قومه فأرادوا أن يصلبوه ألا يكون دعا عليهم بأن يهلكهم الله حيث رفعه الله إلى السماء الدنيا ؟ فقال لي: أنت حكيم قد جاء من عند حكيم

Abdullah bin Abd Qaari (RA) narrates that Rasilullaah (SAW) sent Haatib bin Abi Balta'ah (RA) with a letter addressed to Maqoqis the king of Alexandria... Maqooqis asked, "Tell me about your leader. Is he really a prophet?" "He certainly is the Rasul of allah," replied Haatib (RA). Maqooqis then asked further, "if he really is Allah's prophet, why did he then not curse his people when they drive him out of his town (Makkah)?" Haatib (RA) responded by asking, "Do you not testify that Isa the son of Maryam (AS) was Allah's Rasul"? "Indeed," came the reply. "Then when his people seized him to crucify him," began Haatib, "why did he not pray to Allah to destroy them when Allah raised him to the heavens?" Maqooqis said to Haatib, "You are a wise man who has ceom from the company of a wise man..."

(Bayhaqi as quoted in Al Bidaaya wan Nihaaya (Vol.4 Pg,272). Ibn Shaaheen has also narrated this Hadith as mentioned in Isaaba (Vol.1 Pg.300) al-Baihaqi in "Dala'il al-Nubuwwah" Hadith 1737)

Descent From Skies:

Hadith 6

إن أبا هريرة رضي الله عنه قال : قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : « كيف أنتم إذا نزل ابن مريم من السماء فيكم

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Messenger (PBUH) said "What will be your condition when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you from the heavens…?" (Baihaqi's Asmaa wal Sifaat 2/432 Hadith 855)

Baihaqi (RA) was recognized as a Mujaddid of 4th century A.H. by MGA.

Hadith 7

عن أبى هريرة قال سمعت أبا القاسم الصادق المصدوق يقول ...ثم ينزل عيسى بن مريم عليه وسلم من السماء فيؤم الناس

Abu Huraira (RA) said: I heard Abul Qasim the Truthful and Trustworthy (i.e. Holy Prophet PBUH) say: ‘Then Jesus son of Mary will descend from the Skies and lead the people.’
(Majma' Al-Zawaid 7/349. Haithmi said, Bazzar has narrated it and all its narrators are those of the Sahih [i.e. Sahih Bukhari] except Ali bin Munzar and he is also trustworthy)

Hadith 8

قال ابن عباس : قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : فعند ذلك ينزل أخي عيسى ابن مريم من السماء

Ibn Abbas (RA) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: ‘And near it will descend from the Skies my brother Jesus son of Mary.’
(Kanzul Ummal 14/619 Hadith 39726)

Compiler of Kanzul Ummal, Ali Muttaqi Al-Hindi (RA) was recognized as a Mujaddid of 10th century A.H. by MGA.

Hadith 9

عن ابن عباس { إن تعذبهم فإنهم عبادك } يقول : عبيدك قد استوجبوا العذاب بمقالتهم { وإن تغفر لهم } أي من تركت منهم ومد في عمره حتى أهبط من السماء إلى الأرض يقتل الدجال ، فنزلوا عن مقالتهم ووحدوك

About the verse, ‘If you punish them they are your servants’ Ibn Abbas (RA) said, he [Jesus] will say: ‘These slaves of yours have invited your chastisement by what they said [and believed]’. ‘And if you forgive them’ i.e. ‘those whom I left behind me and those who were there when I came down from the Heavens to Earth to kill Al-Dajjal and they turned back from what they said [i.e. Trinity] and believed in your Oneness…’
(Durr Manthur 4/27 Under Surah 5 Ayah 118)

The writer of Durr Manthur, Jalaluddin Suyuti (RA) was recognized as a Mujaddid of 9th century A.H. by MGA.

Mirza Used The Word Samaa:

"In Muslim Sharif there is a hadith That When Jesus Will descend from skies wearing yellow clothes....."

(Roohani Khazayen Vol 3 Azala Auhaam Page 142)

This is another blunder of MGA, no qadiani can show me the word "sama" in that hadith!!!

In Other Place Mirza Ghulam Ahmed writes,

"Jesus will descend from skies with perfact/complete knowledge"



Either MGA was a liar or He had very less knowledge of Ahadith. Choice is yours

Indeed Allah Knows The Best!

Grave Of Jesus And Contradictions Of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed

As we all know Mirza Ghulam Ahmed claimed that Jesus (PBUH) has died. To prove this lie he wandered here and there and did not miss a single unproven evidence to prove his claim. He never cared whether the saying, which he is quoting, going against what he said earlier in his books.

Here are few examples, how he lamely tried to show the grave/graves of Jesus (PBUH) to support his false claims.....

1. Grave Of Jesus Is In Galilee

In 1891, Mirza Ghulam wrote in his book Azala Oham,

"The truth is that Messiah died in his native place Galilee."

(Roohani Khazayen Vol 3 Azala Auhaam Page 353)





2. The Grave Of Jesus Is In Damascus (Syria)

In 1894, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed writes in his book "Ittimam-e-Hujjat"

The grave of Jesus (PBUH) is in Syria. For evidence, I quote the witness of Muhammad Saeedi Trablisi, and he was the inhabitant of Syria, the grave of Jesus is within the boundary of his area. If you say that the grave is fake the bring evidence of its fakeness and prove that when it was made fake? In this case, there will not be any certainty about the graves of other Prophets.

(Roohani Khazayen Vol 8 Itmam Ul Hujjat Page 296-297)




3. Grave of Jesus Is In Kashmir

In 1898 this Mirza Ghulam Ahmed against changed his belief about the grave of Jesus and wrote in his book "Kashf al-Ghita",

Finally he died and left this mortal world at the age of 120 and blessed the reigion of Kashmir an eternal status with his tomb.

(Roohani Khazayen Vol 14 Kashaf ul Ghita Page 192)



Although, he wrote that, those who do not believe that the grave of Jesus is in Syria, they should bring evidence that this is a fake grave, he turned himself. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed himself wrote


"Writings of a truthful and clear-conscience person never contains any contradictions. Yes if someone is lunatic and insane or such a hypocrite who is a yes man for flattering someone, his writings will, of course, be contradictory."

(Sat Bachan, Roohani Khazain vol 10 p.132)

Mirza Ghulam Ahmed's Challenge About "Tawaffi" Answered

Whenever You argue with qadianies on the Subject of Death of Jesus (PBUH) especially the verse "Ya Essa Inni Matawaffeeka" They come with a long copy paste. 1st argument they give,wherever when Allah is subject and Humanbeing object the word "Tawaffi" can not be translated other than Death

Tawaffi Means Only Death In Quran???


They also come up saying " The word "Tawaffi" is mentioned in Quran 25 times, 23 times with the meaning of death why it can not be translated 2 times with the same meanings when it is used for Jesus (PBUH)

Mirza Ghulam Ahmed writes, in whole Quran, from beginning to end wherever the word "Tawaffi" is used every time it is used only for death...

(RK Vol 3 Azla Auham Page 224 footnotes)

Now let us analyze the knowledge of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. Allah says in Sura Al Baqra


وَاتَّقُوا يَوْمًا تُرْجَعُونَ فِيهِ إِلَى اللَّهِ ثُمَّ تُوَفَّى كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَا كَسَبَتْ وَهُمْ لا يُظْلَمُونَ

And fear the Day when ye shall be brought back to Allah. Then shall every soul be paid what it earned, and none shall be dealt with unjustly.

Al-Qur'an, 002.281

And in Sura Al Nahal


يَوْمَ تَأْتِي كُلُّ نَفْسٍ تُجَادِلُ عَنْ نَفْسِهَا وَتُوَفَّى كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَا عَمِلَتْ وَهُمْ لا يُظْلَمُونَ

One Day every soul will come up struggling for itself, and every soul will be recompensed (fully) for all its actions, and none will be unjustly dealt with.

Al-Qur'an, 016.111

No sane Qadiani can translate it here as death.

When Allah is Subject and Humanbeing Object?


Mirza Ghulam Writes...

If any perosn can bring a single example from whole Quran, Ahadith or from old/new arabic literature, where Allah is subject, human being is object and Tawaffi is used other than "taking soul and death" and used for taking body then I vow to god I will sell my property to give 1000 rupees as a reward.

(RK Vol 3 Azala Oham Page 603)

Mirza himself translated as " I will protect you from such evil death" (Siraj e Munir page 23) and " I will fulfill my blessings on you" in Braheen e Ahmediyya... But we know they do not give a damn to their prophet.. Let us kill their argument from a Sahih Hadith...

Argument Killed!!
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وإذا رمى الجمار لا يدري أحد ما له حتى يتوفاه الله يوم القيامة


"And when one throws pebbles (at the Satan during Hajj) he does not know what reward is there for him till Allah gives it in full to him in full on the Day of Judgment."

(Targhib wal Tarhib 2/160. Classified as Hasan by Albani in Sahih Targhib wal Tarhib, Hadith 1155)

This wording is found in

Shaykh Ali Muttaqi's Kanzul Ummal Hadith 22394
Imam Haithmi's Mawarid al-Zam'aan 1/240
Imam Dimyati's Mutajar al-Rabih 157

al-Munzi classified it as Sahih in his Tarhib wal Tarhib
al-Dimyati classified it as Sahih
and Albani classified it as Hasan


Indeed Allah Knows The Best!

Qur'an 4:69 And Qadiani Interpretation

Among their series of blatant lies and deceitful interpretations of Quran, You will see Qadianis often quoting the following verse to prove that Mirza Qadiani was a Prophet


وَمَنْ يُطِعِ اللَّهَ وَالرَّسُولَ فَأُولَئِكَ مَعَ الَّذِينَ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِمْ مِنَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَالصِّدِّيقِينَ وَالشُّهَدَاءِ وَالصَّالِحِينَ وَحَسُنَ أُولَئِكَ رَفِيقًا

All who obey Allah and the messenger are in the company of those on whom is the Grace of Allah,- of the prophets (who teach), the sincere (lovers of Truth), the witnesses (who testify), and the Righteous (who do good): Ah! what a beautiful fellowship!

(Qur'an 4:69)

Ahmadiyya Pocket Book Translate this verse as:

Whoso obey Allah and the messenger will be among those Whom Allah has bestowed His grace, Prophet, Truthful, the witness and the Righteous.

Muslim Stance about this verse is very clear. The verse neither speaks about the continuity of Prophethood neither says about the finality of it. Rather it speaks about the reward which will be given to those who follow Allah and His Messenger (PBUH) on the day of Judgement.

Few Questions for Ahmedies Brothers & Sisters!

Before we move forward here are few questions from Ahmedies. If we take the interpretation as they took then can they answer these questions

1. If, for the sake of discussion, we agree with Ahmedi interpretation, then why law bearing Prophets can not come?
2. Does this ayah exclude women, shemales, and children?
3. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed said about Hazrat Umar (ra) that He was the "Zill" of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Do Ahmedies dare to call Him Nabi?

4. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed writes, there were people in the past, named Muhammad and Ahmed by Allah. Why they can not be called Prophets?

5. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed writes "Denier of reformer (Mujaddid) is fasiq" Can any Ahmedi bring evidence from the commentareis of Past reformers?

Discussion on the meaning of مَعَ "ma'" :


Let's take a look into the Qadiani stance on the meaning of this word, analyse and then consider the Muslim stance and its proofs.

The Qadiani stance

The word Ma’ denotes concomitance of two or more persons in one place or at one time; or in position, rank or status. It also implies the sense of assistance in 9:40. The particle has been used at the several places in Quran in the sense of fi meaning among. (3:194 & 4:147)

The verse is important as it describes all the avenues of spiritual progress open to all Muslims. All the four spiritual ranks – the Prophet; The Truthful; The Martyrs and the

Analysis of Qadiani stance:

According to Qadiani there are four probable translation of word ma’
1- Concomitance of two or more persons in one place or at one time
2- Concomitance of two or more persons in or in position, rank or status
3- sense of assistance
4- in the sense of fi

Muslim Translation:

The word ma’ means “with”. No less, no more. The Qadiani commentary in this regard is highly twisted to take out the desired meaning.

1- Concomitance of two or more persons in one place or at one time
In 18:28 Allah asks Prophet, may Allah bless him, to keep himself patiently with those who call on their Lord morning and afternoon. If Qadiani translation of word ma’ is accepted, how would this verse be translated.

If concomitance of two or persons in one place/time is considered then Qadiani commentary of 4:69 is bounced back on themselves because it goes in favour of Muslim commentary depicting the concomitance of those who obey Allah and His messenger and the Prophets, the Siddiqun the martyrs, and the righteous.

2- Concomitance of two or more persons in or in position, rank or status
If we take ma’ as concomitance of two or persons in rank, status or position then it means Ma’az Allah Allah is asking the Prophet to lower his status from Prophethood to people who call on their lord.

3-sense of assistance

The word ma’ implies sense of assistance as in 9:40 or 8:46. Even in these verses the word ma’ can easily be translated as “with” to show Allah’s assistance. “Grieve not. Lo! Allah is with us” 9:40 or And be patient, indeed Allah is with the patient ones.” (8:46) . Having Allah “with” you is simplified form of having “Allah’s assistance with you”.

4- in the sense of fi

As for verses 3:194 and 4:147 the Ahmadiyya commentary is unnecessarily been dragged to translate the word ma’ same as fi. In 3:193 the qualities of Ulul-albab (People of understanding) is mentioned that they pray to Allah to and make them die WITH the Abrar. “Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and expiate from us our evil deeds, and make us die (in the state of righteousness) along with Al-Abrâr”. Surprisingly the reference given here contradicts with the original text that can be seen here (3:193) 

http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=176®ion=EN&CR=

Ma’ is translated as “with” the very exact translation of this word.


When was this verse revealed? (Shan e Nazool)

Now let us look into the Hadith narrations which about the event at which this Ayah was revealed. This will also prove that the Ayah has nothing to do with the idea of Prophethood or any probability of someone become a prophet. It simply speaks of the reward for those who obey Allah and His Messenger, may Allah bless him.


جاء رجل إلى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فقال : يا رسول الله ، والله إنك لأحب إلي من نفسي ، وإنك لأحب إلي من أهلي ، وأحب إلي من ولدي ، وإني لأكون في البيت ، فأذكرك فما أصبر حتى آتيك ، فأنظر إليك ، وإذا ذكرت موتي وموتك عرفت أنك إذا دخلت الجنة رفعت مع النبيين ، وإني إذا دخلت الجنة خشيت أن لا أراك . فلم يرد عليه النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم حتى نزل جبريل بهذه الآية : ( ومن يطع الله والرسول فأولئك مع الذين أنعم الله عليهم من النبيين والصديقين ) الآية



A man came to the Prophet, may Allah bless him and said, "O Messenger of Allah! Verily you are dear to me than my own-self, and verily you are dear to me than my children and (it happens that) I am at home and remember you and I then I do not find patience until I come and see you. And when I remember my death and that of yours I understand that when you will enter Jannah you will be on a higher level along with the prophets and when I will enter Jannah, I fear I will not see you." At this the Prophet, may Allah bless him, did not respond to him with anything until Gabriel came with this Ayah,'All who obey Allah and the messenger are in the company of those on whom is the Grace of Allah,- of the prophets (who teach), the sincere (lovers of Truth) ...'

(Mu'jam al-Awst, Hadith 484. Classified as Sahih by Albani in Sahiha 2933)



جاء رجل من الأنصار إلى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وهو محزون، فقال له النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم: يا فلان، مالي أراك محزونًا؟ قال: يا نبي الله، شيء فكرت فيه! فقال: ما هو؟ قال: نحن نغدو عليك ونروح، ننظر في وجهك ونجالسك، غدًا ترفع مع النبيين فلا نصل إليك! فلم يردّ النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم شيئًا. فأتاه جبريل عليه السلام بهذه الآية:"ومن يطع الله والرسول فأولئك مع الذين أنعم الله عليهم من النبيين والصديقين والشهداء والصالحين وحسن أولئك رفيقًا". قال: فبعث إليه النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فبشره.



A man from the Ansar came to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him, and he was sad. The Prophet, may Allah bless him, said to him: "O so-and-so why is that I see you saddened?" So he said: "O Prophet of Allah! Something made me think about it." He (the Prophet) said: "What is that?" He said, "We come to to you and see your face and sit in your company, and soon you will be raised (to stay) with the Prophets so we will not be able to meet you (there in Jannah). So the Prophet, may Allah bless him, did not reply him anything. Then Gabriel came with this Ayah, All who obey Allah and the messenger are in the company of those on whom is the Grace of Allah,- of the prophets (who teach), the sincere (lovers of Truth), the witnesses (who testify), and the Righteous (who do good): Ah! what a beautiful fellowship!" So the Prophet, may Allah bless him, called for him and gave him the good news.

(Tafsir al-Tabari 8/534 Narration 9924)



Qadiani Stance about the probability of a Prophet can also be crushed by these following Ahadith.


First Hadith

'A'isha reported: I heard that never a prophet dies until he is given an option to opt the life of (this) world or that of the Hereafter. She further said: I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) say in his last illness in which he' died. I heard him saying in gruffness of the voice:Along with those persons upon whom Allah bestowed favours from amongst the Messengers, the testifiers of truth, the martyrs, the pious and goodly company are they(iv. 69). (It was on bearing these words) that I thought that he had been given choice (and he opted to live with these pious persons in the Paradise).
(Muslim :: Book 31 : Hadith 5988)

Second Hadith

عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ مُعَاذٍ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ ، عَنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ : " مَنْ قَرَأَ أَلْفَ آيَةٍ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى ، كُتِبَ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ مَعَ النَّبِيِّينَ ، وَالصِّدِّيقِينَ ، وَالشُّهَدَاءِ ، وَالصَّالِحِينَ ، وَحَسُنَ أُولَئِكَ رَفِيقًا إِنْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى " *

(رواه أحمد و البيهقي في الكبرى و الحاكم في المستدرك و أبو يعلى في المسند )

Hazrat Ma'az (ra) narrated that The prophet also said, "He who recites a thousand verses for the sake of Allah will be written on the day of resurrection as being among the prophets, the truthful, martyrs and righteous who are worthy companions, if Allah wills it

Third Hadith

عَنْ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ التَّاجِرُ الصَّدُوقُ الْأَمِينُ مَعَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَالصِّدِّيقِينَ وَالشُّهَدَاءِ

Abu Sa’eed reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him, said: "The truthful trustworthy merchant is with the Prophets the True ones and the martyrs (on the Day of Resurrection).
(Jami' Tirmidhi, Hadith 1214)


Can any Qadiani reply how many Truthful merchant got the status of Prophet?


Fourth Hadith

عن عمرو بن مرة قال جاء رجل إلى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فقال يارسول الله شهدت أن لاإله إلا الله وأنك رسول الله وصليت الخمس وأديت زكاة مالي وصمت شهر رمضان فقال النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم من مات على هذا كان مع النبيين والصديقين والشهداء يوم القيامة هكذا ونصب أصبعيه ما لم يعق والديه

`Amr bin Murrah Al-Juhani said,"A man came to the Prophet and said, `O Allah's Messenger! I bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and that you are the Messenger of Allah, pray the five (daily prayers), give the Zakah due on my wealth and fast the month of Ramadan.' The Messenger of Allah said, 'Whoever dies in this state will be with the Prophets, the truthful and martyrs on the Day of Resurrection, as long as - and he raised his finger - he is not disobedient to his parents.'"

(Majma' al-Zawaid 8/147. Sahih Targhib wal Tarhib, Hadith 2515)




So, As per Qadiani belief every one can get the status of Prophet while on the contrary Mirza himself said that Nabuwat is a blessing of Allah and can not be earned by striving.

All these points are quite enough to show the flimsiness of the Qadiani stand-point. Infact the details above are clear enough to bust the Qadiani argument.


May Allah bring them to True Islam

Indeed Allah knows the best